Current SRO Community Status after almost a month

[PortalDark]

It almost 1 month since server files where released.
Sro community most greatest dream(for some ppl)
Now, today, in this moment, after searching on advert section
i realized some stuff:

Is it me or SRO era came to an end?


No more private server are being released
all of them are hatted between each other



SRO really went on free-fall or what?


Some may say there still good server
but in my opinion is a great flame war between other servers
PvP vs Balanced
Lame vs not Lame

Lets put an example

ZSZC/SJSRO/SWSRO
Ocean found his end. He wont get as much monies he was getting

vSRO based servers
PvP comes in, flames comes out
Balance is well balanced but many ppl wants to be on 9999999x rates, as stated by Eckoro

Semi-balanced: hamachi servers everywhere. No more to say

After a little time viewing advert section, this appears to be sro server process

1. Ask noob questions on wrong section
2. Request a guide even if there are 2-3
3. finally achieve to set up a server(paying other or by themselves)
4. Open a server for testing with extreme rates
5. having hamachi issues, close server and wipe it to open it again and then wipe after 2 days
6. Open a normal rate server, ask for donation
7. If server is well set on dedicate, server may survive, else, it will die

Cool server have a similar pattern except of dying quick(they will die eventually)


This thread is intended to express a fact, not to flame or create a troll spam, i bear for mod to understand my intentions

But to conclude with this, I have to ask
SRO on free-fall?

[6_lucifer_6]

Originally Posted by PortalDark

But to conclude with this, I have to ask
SRO on free-fall?

yea.. thanks to chernobyl.. ahaha

[LastThief]

Originally Posted by 6_lucifer_6

yea.. thanks to chernobyl.. ahaha

strongest servers will survive

[6_lucifer_6]

Originally Posted by LastThief

strongest servers will survive

while this type of "cage match" will go on.. wat ppl play?)) 10 minute server? xD isnt that a bit ridicolus?

[pushedx]

In my opinion, Silkroad is still fine. When it comes to the pserver scene, what we are seeing right now is to be expected after files were released; a bunch of people rushing to setup servers for short term pleasantries. There is nothing wrong with that, as for a lot of people, they finally get to enjoy Silkroad how they want to, even if that entails unrealistically high rates and free silk items. Those servers will naturally keep on popping up and disappearing just as fast as they came, since no real investment is being made with them. The same was true with the emulators (SSE and SREMU) in the past.

The root issue you are alluding to is "where are the quality servers that stand out from the rest"? You won't see any of those for a while. There are three main reasons why.

The first is time. It has only been one month since the files have been released. One month is a very, very short time span in regards to a pserver. Even for a person like me, who has been working non-stop the past month learning the files, reversing stuff, and writing tools, I'm nowhere close to being where I want to in understanding the server files. There's literally years worth of research and knowledge to be gained from the files and people are only scratching the surface right now when it comes to setting up new servers. As a result, all the servers look and feel the same right now because only the simplest things have been changed. Very few people are actually taking the time to look into real advancements with the files as opposed to just trying to setup a server and profit from it.

Truly unique servers that really stand out from what is out there now are a long ways away as a result. Simply put, the files have not been available long enough. This leads to the second reason and that's skills. There are very few people around nowadays in the Silkroad community that possess all the skills needed to really develop the tools and do the work needed for pservers. Since the files release was public though, this might change in time with people from other sites and other games taking an interest in Silkroad, but that once again, this requires time. I would expect more people with more skills come around in the future, especially from RZ. However, it is such a huge time, money, and skill investment, the rewards might not be worth it to most with a lot of new games coming out soon that will have markets 10x+ larger than Silkroads (Diablo 3, MW3, BF3, Skyrim, GW2, SWTOR, etc...). What real incentive is there for people to come to Silkroad when there's a lot of more profitable ventures available?

Given what we have now talent wise from the community, the final reason why we won't see anything special for a while is because of a lack of understanding about literally everything that is going on right now. Back when ecsro was the only pserver around, they could get away with anything because they were the only one with files. The same was true for zszc. When elitesro came around, they too could get away with anything from having exclusiveness of modern files. Since everyone has VSRO files now, the same approaches that worked in the past for ecsro and esro will no longer work, but people fail to understand that.

If you simply want to setup a stock server with changed rates and no real changes to the files or custom content, there is no way you will be able to survive in the long run from "donations". Reason be, there's nothing you can offer that someone else won't be able to offer in a better way for cheaper. Unless you are willing to spend money to operate such a server with no real intent on making money from it, i.e. you aren't looking to make money from it at all, there's little these servers can do for the long run to stay alive.

For the short term, some of the current servers can stay profitable due to having the right types of people aboard. Servers that can pull in large guilds and people with a lot of friends that play who all want to play together on something stable server wise, solid support wise, and not absurd rates wise do stand to be able to get their fair share of donations since a lot of people don't want to spend money on corrupt or greedy servers. However, this is not a long term strategy and as people server hop, these types of servers will hurt the most as people leave.

As a result, the community ends up with the types of servers we have right now, mostly everyone trying to take a piece of the pie for themself. Any servers which have long term ambitions and true aspirations of quality while providing something new as well as old to users have to spend a lot of time and resources upfront doing the necessary planning, research, and development at levels none of the existing servers have been willing to show. That is not to say there aren't people out there who are taking the time and really going through it, but for anything like that, it's going to take some time before you actually see it available. Most people simply don't have the patience for it and only care about the "now" and not the "later".

Anyways, getting back to your question, will the SRO era come to an end? No, time after time, Silkroad has shown its resiliency and it's not going away any time soon. Will the pserver scene improve to what people really hope for? That's another question that only time will tell. At this point, I don't think things can get "worse", but only better. How much better, I'm not sure yet, but I think there's a lot of opportunity awaiting for those willing to really work for it.

[alecz24]

i like it this way, i can have fun without having to waste my life.

[zikor1337]

Originally Posted by pushedx

In my opinion, Silkroad is still fine. When it comes to the pserver scene, what we are seeing right now is to be expected after files were released; a bunch of people rushing to setup servers for short term pleasantries. There is nothing wrong with that, as for a lot of people, they finally get to enjoy Silkroad how they want to, even if that entails unrealistically high rates and free silk items. Those servers will naturally keep on popping up and disappearing just as fast as they came, since no real investment is being made with them. The same was true with the emulators (SSE and SREMU) in the past.

The root issue you are alluding to is "where are the quality servers that stand out from the rest"? You won't see any of those for a while. There are three main reasons why.

The first is time. It has only been one month since the files have been released. One month is a very, very short time span in regards to a pserver. Even for a person like me, who has been working non-stop the past month learning the files, reversing stuff, and writing tools, I'm nowhere close to being where I want to in understanding the server files. There's literally years worth of research and knowledge to be gained from the files and people are only scratching the surface right now when it comes to setting up new servers. As a result, all the servers look and feel the same right now because only the simplest things have been changed. Very few people are actually taking the time to look into real advancements with the files as opposed to just trying to setup a server and profit from it.

Truly unique servers that really stand out from what is out there now are a long ways away as a result. Simply put, the files have not been available long enough. This leads to the second reason and that's skills. There are very few people around nowadays in the Silkroad community that possess all the skills needed to really develop the tools and do the work needed for pservers. Since the files release was public though, this might change in time with people from other sites and other games taking an interest in Silkroad, but that once again, this requires time. I would expect more people with more skills come around in the future, especially from RZ. However, it is such a huge time, money, and skill investment, the rewards might not be worth it to most with a lot of new games coming out soon that will have markets 10x+ larger than Silkroads (Diablo 3, MW3, BF3, Skyrim, GW2, SWTOR, etc...). What real incentive is there for people to come to Silkroad when there's a lot of more profitable ventures available?

Given what we have now talent wise from the community, the final reason why we won't see anything special for a while is because of a lack of understanding about literally everything that is going on right now. Back when ecsro was the only pserver around, they could get away with anything because they were the only one with files. The same was true for zszc. When elitesro came around, they too could get away with anything from having exclusiveness of modern files. Since everyone has VSRO files now, the same approaches that worked in the past for ecsro and esro will no longer work, but people fail to understand that.

If you simply want to setup a stock server with changed rates and no real changes to the files or custom content, there is no way you will be able to survive in the long run from "donations". Reason be, there's nothing you can offer that someone else won't be able to offer in a better way for cheaper. Unless you are willing to spend money to operate such a server with no real intent on making money from it, i.e. you aren't looking to make money from it at all, there's little these servers can do for the long run to stay alive.

For the short term, some of the current servers can stay profitable due to having the right types of people aboard. Servers that can pull in large guilds and people with a lot of friends that play who all want to play together on something stable server wise, solid support wise, and not absurd rates wise do stand to be able to get their fair share of donations since a lot of people don't want to spend money on corrupt or greedy servers. However, this is not a long term strategy and as people server hop, these types of servers will hurt the most as people leave.

As a result, the community ends up with the types of servers we have right now, mostly everyone trying to take a piece of the pie for themself. Any servers which have long term ambitions and true aspirations of quality while providing something new as well as old to users have to spend a lot of time and resources upfront doing the necessary planning, research, and development at levels none of the existing servers have been willing to show. That is not to say there aren't people out there who are taking the time and really going through it, but for anything like that, it's going to take some time before you actually see it available. Most people simply don't have the patience for it and only care about the "now" and not the "later".

Anyways, getting back to your question, will the SRO era come to an end? No, time after time, Silkroad has shown its resiliency and it's not going away any time soon. Will the pserver scene improve to what people really hope for? That's another question that only time will tell. At this point, I don't think things can get "worse", but only better. How much better, I'm not sure yet, but I think there's a lot of opportunity awaiting for those willing to really work for it.

Gotta love your HUGE posts O.O !

Silkroad is still fine, in my opinion. Everybody is rushing right now to setup a server so they can get the feeling of being GM . They will quit doing that in the following 1 month. Also, about the servers that are already online... the strongest will survive (natural selection - right?)

[Epic_Rage]

Originally Posted by PortalDark

1. Ask noob questions on wrong section
2. Request a guide even if there are 2-3
3. finally achieve to set up a server(paying other or by themselves)
4. Open a server for testing with extreme rates
5. having hamachi issues, close server and wipe it to open it again and then wipe after 2 days
6. Open a normal rate server, ask for donation
7. If server is well set on dedicate, server may survive, else, it will die

Sounds like how the e*pvp Psro section has always been.. no difference since the file releases.

Pretty pointless thread tbh. We already know all of this, and we knew that the psro era would take a turn for the worse when the files got released.

Jobbing has never been a big part of any psro.. Occasionally you'll see some thieves/hunters pvping but thats about it, since trading is pointless to gain gold via..

Pvp is reasonably big, but it dies too quick after pvping endlessly against the same people, which is why events are a vital part of late-game sro - NOT UNIQUE EVENTS, THEY ARE BORING AS ****.

My 2 cents.

[half113]

Sro scene is fine.We got 3 really good server's out atm that have great balance in exp,sp, speed and great support you just need to ignore fail server's like current pvp ones and hope some one will make a normal server that stays online 24/7

[6_lucifer_6]

Originally Posted by Epic_Rage

Pretty pointless thread tbh. We already know all of this, and we knew that the psro era would take a turn for the worse when the files got released.
.

keep this thread as discution..

well cherno made a promis.. he kept it.. his man.. xD

but yeah.. sro is getting boring now..

[FoxRayz]

1 Thing i knew before the files were released was that the community here would die out really fast.

The community itself has really spreaded out,but it's just a month since the files got released so lets say in some months i think the forum is back to the normal state again with the best servers kept alive. This is just the beginning right now, so thats why there are so many new servers. They'll be minimized by time.

[PortalDark]

im not saying that sro is going to die soon
or that all server are lame
im saying that sro is no longer what it used to be

im not blaming cherno, kingli, or anybody
and im glad server files where released to stop the monopoly Ocean created
But noob rate is increasing and with that, Sro start looking bad with all that instant 110, 9kx rates a so on

[燃Nui料]

to be instant 110 is what the most player want but there's one problem .

Instant 110+ free seal of nova = a bunch of turks will join ur server(that happend to us , that's why we changed our minds) and destroy the most fun. That's why the instant 110 wont stay alive

Edit: i didnt wrote any names in my post >.> . And sorry if u think so

[PortalDark]

Originally Posted by 燃Nui料

to be instant 110 is what the most player want but there's one problem .

Instant 110+ free seal of nova = a bunch of turks will join ur server(that happend to us , that's why we changed our minds) and destroy the most fun. That's why the instant 110 wont stay alive

please
dont offend other here

[FoxRayz]

Originally Posted by PortalDark

im not saying that sro is going to die soon
or that all server are lame
im saying that sro is no longer what it used to be

im not blaming cherno, kingli, or anybody
and im glad server files where released to stop the monopoly Ocean created
But noob rate is increasing and with that, Sro start looking bad with all that instant 110, 9kx rates a so on

I've never claimed that you said that.

I just mentioned that the community is dead here, because of all the new servers. It's not the same connection to other users as you had here before when only swsro,mysro,sjsro,zszc existed. It was a complete different community from what it is today.

I'm also happy that the files got leaked but like some guys have already stated, the best servers will stay up. Just wait a couple of months and you'll see.