[UNOFFICIAL] List Legit/Scam Providers (only real list Fn)

[Rebelhvh]

Originally Posted by TransPrincess

I heard this all the way back in Warzone 2, so yeah this has been a rumor for well over a year, nearly two since we're about to hit Warzone 4 with Black Ops 6 lol. This was ages ago but I heard COD was under development and while they were internally developing it they cracked some other provider and were selling day keys. However, a rumor is a rumor. I have no proof of this and I don't know where my friend heard it from either so it could be a misunderstanding.



Personally, I don't think so.

Let me explain why and I also need to state right now, I don't think NGR hack is bad. It was actually very decent and it performed as well as it was advertised. If NGR had no spoofer at all and only sold a cheat then yeah I would probably move it to T1, because the cheat itself has no issues and it supports both closeting and semi-rage playstyles. I can't speak on full rage because we didn't test that and I also am not sure if no spread is detected or not? That's another thing, they just have the no spread feature labled as "only use it if you know what you're doing" - that can mean anything at the end of the day.

For T1, I believe it should be for the providers who have little to zero ban issues, similar to the COD tier list, all the tier1 (trusted on main providers) are ones who have a background in AC reversal such as ArtificialAiming, ProofCore, PhantomOverlay, etc.. That doesn't mean T2 isn't good at AC reversal though, there are defiantly very decent providers in the COD list too such as EngineOwning, but they are not Tier1 due to their issues with the COD cheat being detected and their spoofer also having issues (similar to NGR).

I guess it goes without saying, community and drama can influence perception on cheats a lot as well. Being toxic also opens up for other people to try attack your website and cheat, crack, leak the database, etc.. It goes on and on.

As a customer you wouldn't really want to be a part of a database that has people targeting you, right?
Cheats these days log everything from SteamID to Discord ID as well. No reason to have that leaked just because your provider started a war with some other vendor. Example being Aimware and Interwebz having their database leaked in the past, so many people got fucked over by that just because the staff were having a war with someone else.




First of all, thank you for taking the time to reply and good job on the cheat (if you're one of the coders). Its a very nice cheat as I already said, nothing over the top or fancy, it has everything someone would need in a game like this. Prediction was good, aimbot was good and visuals were VERY fluid for an external.

I do need to ask though, is no spread detected or not? Labeling a feature as "only use it if you know what you're doing" doesn't really tell us much.

I've been in your position before, I am with a very reputable cheat site and we also have had slanderous claims over the years that are just not true. That's why I take a lot of rumors with a grain of salt, though the evidence in this thread is pretty damning I have to admit. And everyone in this thread can agree that all it takes is one rumor to fuck you reputation up. If you're cracking other providers then we can all agree that is a shady thing to do and if a provider is cracking someone elses software then what could they be doing to their customers (RAT, keylog, etc..) This will also effect you in the long run if you plan on going the application only route similar to ProofCore, people won't be submittijng IDs if these rumors persist over the next few months.

Your reputation in Apex Legends is excellent, I know of that. You have a spotless record there and most people recommend your cheat for that game. Its a shame for Fortnite that its a bit of a cluster fuck over here.

I don't know for sure if you and your team cracked other providers but its not a good look regardless. Especially when its coming from someone like SauceMachine, I've seen him over the years in this scene, its not like its coming from a guy who joined this year and has 5 posts on his record :/

That was nice to read, I wish you could try out different cheats like Proofcore so an expert can actually review these cheats and remain non-biased.

From what I've read so far on this forum and their media, both ProofCore and NGR seem to be #1 cheats right now. I was wondering if you do get banned with proofcore, does the hwid spoofer run everytime you run the cheat so your real hardware never gets banned. I don't wanna go trough the trouble of perma spoofing or paying for a temp spoofer for my pc which I just bought and will probably use for another 7-8 years.

[TransPrincess]

Originally Posted by Rebelhvh

That was nice to read, I wish you could try out different cheats like Proofcore so an expert can actually review these cheats and remain non-biased.

From what I've read so far on this forum and their media, both ProofCore and NGR seem to be #1 cheats right now. I was wondering if you do get banned with proofcore, does the hwid spoofer run everytime you run the cheat so your real hardware never gets banned. I don't wanna go trough the trouble of perma spoofing or paying for a temp spoofer for my pc which I just bought and will probably use for another 7-8 years.

Yeah, they seem to be the best two in terms of performance and safe features (tournament mode, mouse aimbot, not view angles, etc..) NGR seems to just have major issues with their spoofer, its in beta though apparently.

I see Chaos is in #1 but I don't even know where to get that cheat, couldn't see it in the blackmarket section.
Also something I forgot to mention about NGR is that there was 0 issues with BSOD, might seem like its expected but a lot of providers who support kernel anti-cheats always have BSOD issues and its just annoying. I hear ProofCore has a lot of issues with BSODs, so its kind of a double edged sword.

I can give a ProofCore review but honestly they are already so highly regarded that I'm not sure if its required haha. I just wanted to give an honest review on NGR since a lot of people are claiming its detected and trashing on it, which doesn't seem to be true. Sauce did say EAC delays for awhile though, so it is entirely possible that a delayed ban is coming.

If NGR went invite only then yeah it would be great for a main account, after they iron out all the spoofer issues. There is just no reason to use public cheats on a main account though, especially with such an aggressive HWID ban system. They claim to have an EAC killswitch which is an amazing feature, I much rather not be able to inject at all instead of 'risking' to play when EAC updates every second day or not.

As for HWID bans I heard sync.top is a permanent solution, very good devs and a very easy to use permanent spoofer. I'm not 100% sure if they still support Fortnite though but everyone uses this for COD, DBD and other games. Reported.lol is good too but its quite expensive, however you get what you pay for in this case. Quality.

[ucco153]

Someone have an opinion on serotonin fortnite tournament cheat.

[grimset]

Originally Posted by TransPrincess

I heard this all the way back in Warzone 2, so yeah this has been a rumor for well over a year, nearly two since we're about to hit Warzone 4 with Black Ops 6 lol. This was ages ago but I heard COD was under development and while they were internally developing it they cracked some other provider and were selling day keys. However, a rumor is a rumor. I have no proof of this and I don't know where my friend heard it from either so it could be a misunderstanding.



Personally, I don't think so.

Let me explain why and I also need to state right now, I don't think NGR hack is bad. It was actually very decent and it performed as well as it was advertised. If NGR had no spoofer at all and only sold a cheat then yeah I would probably move it to T1, because the cheat itself has no issues and it supports both closeting and semi-rage playstyles. I can't speak on full rage because we didn't test that and I also am not sure if no spread is detected or not? That's another thing, they just have the no spread feature labled as "only use it if you know what you're doing" - that can mean anything at the end of the day.

For T1, I believe it should be for the providers who have little to zero ban issues, similar to the COD tier list, all the tier1 (trusted on main providers) are ones who have a background in AC reversal such as ArtificialAiming, ProofCore, PhantomOverlay, etc.. That doesn't mean T2 isn't good at AC reversal though, there are defiantly very decent providers in the COD list too such as EngineOwning, but they are not Tier1 due to their issues with the COD cheat being detected and their spoofer also having issues (similar to NGR).

I guess it goes without saying, community and drama can influence perception on cheats a lot as well. Being toxic also opens up for other people to try attack your website and cheat, crack, leak the database, etc.. It goes on and on.

As a customer you wouldn't really want to be a part of a database that has people targeting you, right?
Cheats these days log everything from SteamID to Discord ID as well. No reason to have that leaked just because your provider started a war with some other vendor. Example being Aimware and Interwebz having their database leaked in the past, so many people got fucked over by that just because the staff were having a war with someone else.




First of all, thank you for taking the time to reply and good job on the cheat (if you're one of the coders). Its a very nice cheat as I already said, nothing over the top or fancy, it has everything someone would need in a game like this. Prediction was good, aimbot was good and visuals were VERY fluid for an external.

I do need to ask though, is no spread detected or not? Labeling a feature as "only use it if you know what you're doing" doesn't really tell us much.

I've been in your position before, I am with a very reputable cheat site and we also have had slanderous claims over the years that are just not true. That's why I take a lot of rumors with a grain of salt, though the evidence in this thread is pretty damning I have to admit. And everyone in this thread can agree that all it takes is one rumor to fuck you reputation up. If you're cracking other providers then we can all agree that is a shady thing to do and if a provider is cracking someone elses software then what could they be doing to their customers (RAT, keylog, etc..) This will also effect you in the long run if you plan on going the application only route similar to ProofCore, people won't be submittijng IDs if these rumors persist over the next few months.

Your reputation in Apex Legends is excellent, I know of that. You have a spotless record there and most people recommend your cheat for that game. Its a shame for Fortnite that its a bit of a cluster fuck over here.

I don't know for sure if you and your team cracked other providers but its not a good look regardless. Especially when its coming from someone like SauceMachine, I've seen him over the years in this scene, its not like its coming from a guy who joined this year and has 5 posts on his record :/

I think saying we are a T2 provider is reasonable if you ignore the other T2 providers. Looking at Vanta, Sapphire, Fecurity, etc we are miles above them, and I'm pretty sure they've quite literally been detected for months if not years. Imo its misleading to have us and Vanta in T2 because the quality is not remotely similar. About your comment with the spoofer holding us back, we don't advertise it anywhere since its in a beta. It's not like people buy the cheat with the intent of using the spoofer unless a friend told them it works or something.

We store very little of your personal identifiable information. We store IP, hwid, username, and your encrypted password, even we can't see your password, and that is about it. We have no plans on ever asking to see ID or anything. Our idea of application only is just having a small conversation with someone and making sure their expectations will be met before purchasing the cheat, we are more than confident in our security being able to take on anticheat employees. We just want to make sure the customer is reasonable and that they will be happy with what the cheat has to offer, that is really all.

nospread is not detected as far as our tests have shown, but of course its extremely obvious and you can get easily banned due to reports.

I'm curious though, what evidence are you referring to against us? I'm yet to see anything really on this thread with image or video proof.

Anyways, I appreciate the conversation once again. We are releasing a huge security update for our usermode module that should make it much harder to get banned. After that and the release of our rust cheat our focus will be on the spoofer. Give it another 2-3 months and we'll be back at the top of the Fortnite section.

[frxmpz]

vouch for proofcore very smooth and not laggy at all. support is helpful so far aimbot is very realistic for legit settings and esp is 10/10. plus built in spooF AND cleaner. havent got banned or anything.

[TransPrincess]

Originally Posted by grimset

I think saying we are a T2 provider is reasonable if you ignore the other T2 providers. Looking at Vanta, Sapphire, Fecurity, etc we are miles above them, and I'm pretty sure they've quite literally been detected for months if not years. Imo its misleading to have us and Vanta in T2 because the quality is not remotely similar. About your comment with the spoofer holding us back, we don't advertise it anywhere since its in a beta. It's not like people buy the cheat with the intent of using the spoofer unless a friend told them it works or something.

We store very little of your personal identifiable information. We store IP, hwid, username, and your encrypted password, even we can't see your password, and that is about it. We have no plans on ever asking to see ID or anything. Our idea of application only is just having a small conversation with someone and making sure their expectations will be met before purchasing the cheat, we are more than confident in our security being able to take on anticheat employees. We just want to make sure the customer is reasonable and that they will be happy with what the cheat has to offer, that is really all.

nospread is not detected as far as our tests have shown, but of course its extremely obvious and you can get easily banned due to reports.

I'm curious though, what evidence are you referring to against us? I'm yet to see anything really on this thread with image or video proof.

Anyways, I appreciate the conversation once again. We are releasing a huge security update for our usermode module that should make it much harder to get banned. After that and the release of our rust cheat our focus will be on the spoofer. Give it another 2-3 months and we'll be back at the top of the Fortnite section.

Hello again,

Yes I do agree with you that T2 is a good place for your cheat and I do also believe that there should be a T3 list. Fecurity for example is a beautifuly designed cheat and while its detected, its still in another league of its own in terms of performance, visuals and how it functions. Its pretty insulting to see well coded cheats such as Fecurity be placed next to Sapphire Services when they are known to be scammers even in the COD scene and other game scene. There should be a Tier 3, basically like Gold, Silver, Bronze.

And true, you don't advertise the spoofer and my small posts were very limited on my thoughts about your spoofer. Your cheat itself is amazing and if its true your no spread is undetected then that's the only cheat I've seen that has an UD no spread, at least from what I can see advertised on ePvP.

Lastly, as for evidence. I was mainly speaking about your own Discord. Has no one posted the screenshots yet, I assumed that's what people were calling you out for?
I'm talking about how in your announcements you are advertising a cracked COD cheat and this is from the official NGRHook Discord server that is from your website.


I was wrong about it being from Warzone 2, it seems like it was from earlier this year:



Regardless,
I think your cheat is top quality. The only reason I'd place it away from ProofCore is because it doesn't have a verification system which I think is needed for T1 (main account tier cheats). There are just some things you guys need to work on and I'm sure you'll get the same reputation as you do in the Apex Legends section.

[Rebelhvh]

Originally Posted by TransPrincess

Hello again,

Yes I do agree with you that T2 is a good place for your cheat and I do also believe that there should be a T3 list. Fecurity for example is a beautifuly designed cheat and while its detected, its still in another league of its own in terms of performance, visuals and how it functions. Its pretty insulting to see well coded cheats such as Fecurity be placed next to Sapphire Services when they are known to be scammers even in the COD scene and other game scene. There should be a Tier 3, basically like Gold, Silver, Bronze.

And true, you don't advertise the spoofer and my small posts were very limited on my thoughts about your spoofer. Your cheat itself is amazing and if its true your no spread is undetected then that's the only cheat I've seen that has an UD no spread, at least from what I can see advertised on ePvP.

Lastly, as for evidence. I was mainly speaking about your own Discord. Has no one posted the screenshots yet, I assumed that's what people were calling you out for?
I'm talking about how in your announcements you are advertising a cracked COD cheat and this is from the official NGRHook Discord server that is from your website.


I was wrong about it being from Warzone 2, it seems like it was from earlier this year:



Regardless,
I think your cheat is top quality. The only reason I'd place it away from ProofCore is because it doesn't have a verification system which I think is needed for T1 (main account tier cheats). There are just some things you guys need to work on and I'm sure you'll get the same reputation as you do in the Apex Legends section.

checkmate

PS: I bought Proofcore this morning, for some weird reason on your first injection you get a hwid mismatch (a lot of messages on forum and discord about this) currently waiting for them to "reset" my hwid and when I'm able to test it out for a couple days i'll let you know what's good and any issues I run into.

[unncheats]

Originally Posted by TransPrincess

Regardless,
I think your cheat is top quality. The only reason I'd place it away from ProofCore is because it doesn't have a verification system which I think is needed for T1 (main account tier cheats). There are just some things you guys need to work on and I'm sure you'll get the same reputation as you do in the Apex Legends section.

Verification it's not about private.. it's still public cheat but w/o kids in community.

[lort1234]

Evade have shared a detected Fortnite build for their cheat to users, because of a beef between the provider and a reseller.

They should probably be added to untrusted.

[Silverback]

Originally Posted by Rebelhvh

I was wondering if you do get banned with proofcore, does the hwid spoofer run everytime you run the cheat so your real hardware never gets banned. I don't wanna go trough the trouble of perma spoofing or paying for a temp spoofer for my pc which I just bought and will probably use for another 7-8 years.

If you get banned, you can use the cleaner and then continue to use the spoofer and you're good to play again. You don't need to use the cleaner each time, but I definitely recommend always enabling the spoofer as your real HWID will be protected. There's no need for third-party spoofers and you won't need to reinstall Windows as long as you're using the proofcore Fortnite cheat.

[Rebelhvh]

Originally Posted by Silverback

If you get banned, you can use the cleaner and then continue to use the spoofer and you're good to play again. You don't need to use the cleaner each time, but I definitely recommend always enabling the spoofer as your real HWID will be protected. There's no need for third-party spoofers and you won't need to reinstall Windows as long as you're using the proofcore Fortnite cheat.

Thank you, I've already purchased 2 days ago and I'm loving it so far.

[disrupt]

Originally Posted by TransPrincess

I see Chaos is in #1 but I don't even know where to get that cheat, couldn't see it in the blackmarket section.

Check my threads.

[grimset]

Originally Posted by cheesetrier

ngr closed their discord for users only and that gotta be a reason, they are ultra detected when u ask about spoofer they say it may or not work wich is crazy. an undetected cheat theres no delay bans, dont come here with the bs saying its ud same thing goes for when u are banned even playing legit they gonna say its ur spoofer problem. but guess what i've tried with 2/3 diff computers in 2/3 locations with 1 of then being in another country, and still u are ban after a day or so if u lucky enough. the real deal for now it is AI aim the only one u not getting caught if you know how to cheese, a lot of u are not even gonna read this but stop fallin for non sense private ones and ****** asss publics who advertise thenselves as UD.

The cheat hasn't been up for a while, show proof of purchase, lol.

[TransPrincess]

ProofCore review:

Well, as everyone knows.. ProofCore is established in being a secure and 'main account' style of cheating. You don't get ProofCore and expect to be banned and that's exactly what they offer. Their track record across all their games is amazing and while they've only had one detection in Fortnite I'm still very happy with their product(s).

The menu is clean and beautiful, has a little bit more style compared to NGRHooks menu but that doesn't really mean NGR's menu is bad either. Just thought I'd comment on their menus.

In terms of visuals, the visuals are amazing and the skeletons are a lot more fluid and optimized compared to NGRhooks. NGRhooks for some reason made it look like some player skeletons were using 'anti aim' if you get what I mean? They were a tad jittery and weren't exactly accurate. ProofCore's skeletons however, are probably one of the best I've seen. The 'thick' skeleton is quite a common feature in cheats but ProofCores 'thick skeleton' adds a small glow around the bones which just makes it stand out and appear much more beautiful compared to other cheats. People will probably wonder why I care so much about visuals but if you're going to be maining a cheat, you want it to at least LOOK good. Some cheats are amazing and have amazing exploits but their visuals are still from the 90s and don't bring that "CSGO level" of visuals if you get what I mean. Those CS devs always took pride in making their cheats look clean and ProofCore is certainly in the same boat.

So far I've only used it for about 2 or 3 days, first day I played legit and it was fine, the aimbot is very humanized just like their COD cheat. In fact, I've used a lot of external cheats with "mouse aimbot" and ProofCore always had the best and most humanized aimbot, especially with their 'Advanced' Smoothing you can enable. If you just want old school smoothing from 0-10 then that's also an option too for people who get lost easily.

In terms of rage gameplay, I used it full raging while my bestie was driving the car around for me, wiping squads out for a few matches and not a single loss until our last game of the night. The cheat can be accurate in 'certain' situations but I will admit the prediction in their aimbot requires a bit of work for some weapons. No spread would also be a nice addition but I'm not sure how safe and undetected that is and if ProofCore is willing to sacrifice security for such a feature. So in that regard, NGRhook gets a point in terms of their cheats accuracy.

Also the community for ProofCore are a lot more friendlier. I've had no issues with Grimset from NGR, but there is just too much drama on this thread with NGR and they also denied cracking COD cheats but there is an announcement in their discord about a cracked COD cheat :/

My only request for @ and other PC admins is that I hope you bring your beautiful "Thick Skeleton" visuals over to Black Ops 6 when it releases next week and your other titles eventually. The small glow is amazing and we defiantly need a good looking cheat for COD. SO please get that added in - I know this isn't a Fortnite request, but your cheat is perfect as it is minus a little inaccuracy with the prediction. So please add Thick Skeletons to COD! <3

ProofCore certainly deserves its place in Tier1.

[grimset]

Originally Posted by TransPrincess

ProofCore review:

Well, as everyone knows.. ProofCore is established in being a secure and 'main account' style of cheating. You don't get ProofCore and expect to be banned and that's exactly what they offer. Their track record across all their games is amazing and while they've only had one detection in Fortnite I'm still very happy with their product(s).

The menu is clean and beautiful, has a little bit more style compared to NGRHooks menu but that doesn't really mean NGR's menu is bad either. Just thought I'd comment on their menus.

In terms of visuals, the visuals are amazing and the skeletons are a lot more fluid and optimized compared to NGRhooks. NGRhooks for some reason made it look like some player skeletons were using 'anti aim' if you get what I mean? They were a tad jittery and weren't exactly accurate. ProofCore's skeletons however, are probably one of the best I've seen. The 'thick' skeleton is quite a common feature in cheats but ProofCores 'thick skeleton' adds a small glow around the bones which just makes it stand out and appear much more beautiful compared to other cheats. People will probably wonder why I care so much about visuals but if you're going to be maining a cheat, you want it to at least LOOK good. Some cheats are amazing and have amazing exploits but their visuals are still from the 90s and don't bring that "CSGO level" of visuals if you get what I mean. Those CS devs always took pride in making their cheats look clean and ProofCore is certainly in the same boat.

So far I've only used it for about 2 or 3 days, first day I played legit and it was fine, the aimbot is very humanized just like their COD cheat. In fact, I've used a lot of external cheats with "mouse aimbot" and ProofCore always had the best and most humanized aimbot, especially with their 'Advanced' Smoothing you can enable. If you just want old school smoothing from 0-10 then that's also an option too for people who get lost easily.

In terms of rage gameplay, I used it full raging while my bestie was driving the car around for me, wiping squads out for a few matches and not a single loss until our last game of the night. The cheat can be accurate in 'certain' situations but I will admit the prediction in their aimbot requires a bit of work for some weapons. No spread would also be a nice addition but I'm not sure how safe and undetected that is and if ProofCore is willing to sacrifice security for such a feature. So in that regard, NGRhook gets a point in terms of their cheats accuracy.

Also the community for ProofCore are a lot more friendlier. I've had no issues with Grimset from NGR, but there is just too much drama on this thread with NGR and they also denied cracking COD cheats but there is an announcement in their discord about a cracked COD cheat :/

My only request for @ and other PC admins is that I hope you bring your beautiful "Thick Skeleton" visuals over to Black Ops 6 when it releases next week and your other titles eventually. The small glow is amazing and we defiantly need a good looking cheat for COD. SO please get that added in - I know this isn't a Fortnite request, but your cheat is perfect as it is minus a little inaccuracy with the prediction. So please add Thick Skeletons to COD! <3

ProofCore certainly deserves its place in Tier1.

If you'd like more insight into what those messages were about or how we operate, feel free to contact me on discord. I'd explain it here but it would get taken out of context by a certain group of people.