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Do free HWID spoofers work?
Discussion on Do free HWID spoofers work? within the Apex Legends forum part of the Popular Games category.
03/15/2023, 21:31
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Do free HWID spoofers work?
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My PC is HWID banned and I found a bunch of different free HWID spoofers online on github. Do these work? All I want to do is play legit on a banned PC.
Thanks in advance
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03/15/2023, 21:36
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I'll tell you the most evident answer but the only right one.Try it.
Play 10 games on a smurf alone if u don't get ban after like 2-3 hours it works.
Especially if u want to play legit the only reason you will get ban is that the spoofer didn't work.
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03/15/2023, 21:51
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Originally Posted by ApexExE1337
I'll tell you the most evident answer but the only right one.Try it.
Play 10 games on a smurf alone if u don't get ban after like 2-3 hours it works.
Especially if u want to play legit the only reason you will get ban is that the spoofer didn't work.
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Fair enough, I would have immediately tried but I'm not sure if they could be malicious in any way
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03/15/2023, 21:52
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Fair enough, I would have immediately tried but I'm not sure if they could be malicious in any way
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usually nothing is free for a reason bro
i wouldn't trust something free to be honest
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03/15/2023, 22:32
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usually nothing is free for a reason bro
i wouldn't trust something free to be honest
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In that case, do you know of any reasonably priced permanent HWID spoofers for Apex that currently work?
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03/15/2023, 23:42
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03/16/2023, 04:41
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Long story short: No, they don't.
And if you go with a 'perm' spoofer, even if you won't get instabanned, you will definitely get flagged since they use gpu hwid and other stuff now (that won't get spoofed by any 'perm' spoofer, they only spoof your motherboard  )
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03/16/2023, 08:26
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Originally Posted by tubil
Hi,
My PC is HWID banned and I found a bunch of different free HWID spoofers online on github. Do these work? All I want to do is play legit on a banned PC.
Thanks in advance
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no i would recommend buying one
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03/16/2023, 11:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tubil
Hi,
My PC is HWID banned and I found a bunch of different free HWID spoofers online on github. Do these work? All I want to do is play legit on a banned PC.
Thanks in advance
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I found a free one from unknown cheats using a lenovo driver and editing the nsh file, had no issues with apex.
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03/16/2023, 15:03
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Originally Posted by wilvin0
Long story short: No, they don't.
And if you go with a 'perm' spoofer, even if you won't get instabanned, you will definitely get flagged since they use gpu hwid and other stuff now (that won't get spoofed by any 'perm' spoofer, they only spoof your motherboard  )
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Not sure where you pulled this information from, it is wrong nevertheless. Apex eac has never pulled gpu serials from your machine and it has never been a part of the hwid mechanism. There are however some serials that cannot be perm spoofed that are used by eac and an example of that is ram, tpm and monitor but it's not enough to execute a ban (why is unclear, one can only guess) which is why you're still seeing perm spoofer that work.
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03/16/2023, 15:36
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Originally Posted by SauceMachine
Not sure where you pulled this information from, it is wrong nevertheless. Apex eac has never pulled gpu serials from your machine and it has never been a part of the hwid mechanism. There are however some serials that cannot be perm spoofed that are used by eac and an example of that is ram, tpm and monitor but it's not enough to execute a ban (why is unclear, one can only guess) which is why you're still seeing perm spoofer that work.
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As for the gpu, i heard that it was added a bit after it was added into rust version, and ram isn't a problem since most rams serial numbers are just 000000, for tpm, u can downgrade into an older bios version unless u have some of the last motherboards, and for most monitors you can edit the edid and change the serials through linux.
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03/16/2023, 15:49
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For any game, I would never use a free cheat or spoofer. You have a very high chance of getting a virus or getting detected instantly. The only way this does not apply is if you receive a voucher key from a developer or are assisting in development or testing.
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03/16/2023, 16:21
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Originally Posted by wilvin0
As for the gpu, i heard that it was added a bit after it was added into rust version, and ram isn't a problem since most rams serial numbers are just 000000, for tpm, u can downgrade into an older bios version unless u have some of the last motherboards, and for most monitors you can edit the edid and change the serials through linux.
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Your information is incorrect, it has never been a part of Rust.
I am very familiar with the functionality of permanent spoofers and the manipulation of serials using public tools, but my aim was to provide a general explanation of what cannot be permanently spoofed, rather than detailing methods such as disabling, downgrading BIOS, or utilizing unconventional research software through Linux. These measures can be cumbersome and unreasonable to impose on clients.
It is also important to note that disabling a function does not constitute "spoofing" the value. Approximately 40-50% of RAM sticks have serials, so relying on null values is not a practical solution.
One downside of using permanent spoofing is the lack of control it provides. You must depend on third-party software to perform the task for you, without knowledge of what happens in the background. If an update occurs and disrupts your solution(its just a matter of time), theres a great chance that you end up having no ways to recover.
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03/16/2023, 16:39
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Originally Posted by SauceMachine
Your information is incorrect, it has never been a part of Rust. I am familiar with the functionality of permanent spoofers and the manipulation of serials using public tools.
My aim was to provide a general explanation of what cannot be permanently spoofed, rather than detailing methods such as disabling, downgrading BIOS, or utilizing unconventional research software through Linux. These measures can be cumbersome and unreasonable to impose on clients.
It is also important to note that disabling a function does not constitute "spoofing" the value. Approximately 40-50% of RAM sticks have serials, so relying on null values is not a practical solution.
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Well, not going to argue over the gpu since it's not something that i verified by myself but other devs say otherwise (and from what i've seen some public spoofers for rust, are spoofing the gpu too) but,
old bios versions didn't have tpm at all, it's not about disabling it
And either way gpu ban or not, that doesn't change the fact that if this guy is going to use a permanent spoofer, he's going to be flagged from head to toe, the fact that he won't get banned within an hour or two doesn't mean that 'it works', especially if he's still going to cheat and going to get reported, he's going to get banned way quicker than someone using a proper spoofer
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03/16/2023, 16:50
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Originally Posted by wilvin0
Well, not going to argue over the gpu since it's not something that i verified by myself but other devs say otherwise (and from what i've seen some public spoofers for rust, are spoofing the gpu too) but,
old bios versions didn't have tpm at all, it's not about disabling it
And either way gpu ban or not, that doesn't change the fact that if this guy is going to use a permanent spoofer, he's going to be flagged from head to toe, the fact that he won't get banned within an hour or two doesn't mean that 'it works', especially if he's still going to cheat and going to get reported, he's going to get banned way quicker than someone using a proper spoofer 
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I can confirm that no GPU information is being fetched. We retrieve this data directly from EAC, and currently GPU is only required for COD and FiveM. We have been operating our Rust spoofer for approximately two years and have a great deal of experienced in this field.
Nevertheless, this information is not important. What I intended to explain is that multiple serials are retrieved, which are not generally spoofed by permanent spoofers. While EAC may not ban them, these serials could of course be utilized for other purposes (e.g., Cerberus in Rust), though this is mere speculation at this point. I would still (just like you) recommend spoofing them all of course.
Regarding Rust and Apex, a general rule is that players need to spend at least 120 minutes in-game to trigger an HWID ban. However, if you are using a detected cheat or spoofer, the delay could be longer. As long as there is no detection coming from third-party software/drivers, 120 minutes is the key to staying safe.
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